After 3 dips in 3 days, this is the color card for the green persimmon dye. You can see the original fabric was very white. The literature on using persimmons says it makes fabrics water resistant and can be painted onto paper or fiber bowls. It was difficult to make the fabric soak up the persimmon after the first day and you could see the moisture bead on the linen piece. The dupioni silk piece didn’t react and there was very little color change on day 2 so I didn’t bother on day 3. The deepest change was on the rayon piece and I found that same thing using indigo. I’m thinking that rayon is going to be my fabric of choice.
We will pick persimmons again in a week or so, right before they start to turn color and see if that pick makes a difference. In the meantime, I have some experimenting to do with painting on the juice with and without mordants to see what comes out. I also haven’t tried stitching through this yet so more experimenting.
Janice Paine Dawes, Artist 
Just to let you know, my Texas persimmons gave an unsparing brown the riper they became. I think the tannins oxidized and yellow dyes in the fruit became part of the sugar richness and left only the brown portion. It will be interesting to see what you come up with…compared with these colors http://debmcclintock.me/2012/07/30/persimmon-revisited-or-still-searching-for-black/
Love your colors Deb. I have set aside some of this to ferment. I was hoping for the rich brown with the green fruit that they show on some Japanese blogs. I may have to send some emails for answers.